Favre ?

It is unreal. He doesn't want to put in the effort or the work that would involve training camp and they are still paying him that much. This is exactly why the Packers wanted to move on. He wasn't working out in the off season and before that last year in Green Bay he had sucked for 3 or 4 years. He blew last year in the 2nd Half because he wore down. So annoying.

Eagles & G-Men will be good.  Packers 3-4 looked very good last week against (cough) Cleveland.  Favre will give you 4-5 great games, 4-5 ok games and he will lose 4 for you.  It wouldn't surprise me if Favre got hurt this year and ended his game streak. 

 
 

I don't count the cowboys, because Romo is terrible, especially in the clutch.. Barber will never make it for a full year, though i do like the other guy... I don't trust their secondary or their offensive coordinator.

Ron, you are right they would have made the playoffs, like they did last year, but the goal isn't to make the playoffs, just like the goal isn't to produce less than $200K... I think Favre is better than what they had.. It's like replacing a $80K account with a $500K account, yeah it's not a MIL but still better than the 80K, and sure it comes with additional headaches but the increased income is worth it.

I think that it's probably pretty hard to be one of the best in the world at something and not be an egomaniac, or at least, be portrayed like one to some extent. 
 
The guy is old and beat up.  It only makes sense that if he was going to play this year to do it in the way that is easiest on his body.   That means avoiding training camp.  It also is going to mean not practicing all that much during the season and getting special treatment.  If someone was going to pay be $12 million to be that kind of ******, I'll take the job.

I like giving old players one more chance...and that's why I'm a Raider's Fan.

I actually had a ton of respect for Favre until the last few off seasons. A large majority of the Bears fans I know had grown to respect his skills and toughness even though he was beating our teams head in. I think he has gotten lazy the last few years, Green Bay saw that happening and called him out on it. Then he tried turning the tables on management. What Favre doesn't realize is coaches and GM's are trying to put together careers in a cut throat industry and as they try to prepare he is off fishing in Mississippi. It isn't fair to the teams.

Isn't there a double edge sword in professional sports.. Leave to early (Barry Sanders) and we are mad and wonder why... Stay too long (Favre/Shaq) we are mad and wonder why.. But don't they have the opportunity to redeem themselves by doing something great.. For example if Shaq and Lebron win the NBA championship this year or if Favre leads the vikings to the superbowl. In 3-5 years no one will remember anyways(like when Montana finished his career as a Chief, or Jordan a wizard, Karl Malone on the lakers, Gary Payton on the lakers, heat). Sure we remember, but don't really care that they did

When I referred to shaq, I meant about staying past their prime(he can barely make it through half a season now). I will conceed he has more titles, but I think that is only because in basketball you can win a title with 2 really good players, and then some role players (Kobe/Shq, Jordan/Pippen, KG/Pierce) where as in football you need a lot more talent overall(or barry sanders would have had a ring by now).

On the interceptions for Favre, he is a gunslinger(is only derrogatory when he plays poorly) and you have to live with that. Also I think the caliber of receivers he has has been very poor considering this era.. Because when I think of top 25 recievers of the past 20 years, Donald Driver, Javon Walker, Antonio Freeman and Robert Brooks don't cut it... Same as RB, Ryan Grant is ok(maybe not even), but Edgar Bennet,Dorsey Levens, Ahman Green(for maybe 2 years)... I think there is a reason for the interceptions, he has never had talent around him(Brady to Randy Moss, Manning to Harrison, Montana to Rice etc.)..

I think this year will be interesting.. still has no wr, but does have the best rb in the league

You forgot Sterling Sharpe his first few years. Without Sharpe Favre wouldn't have been allowed to continue starting. All completions were to Sharpe or the other team! Now there is a report that Favre has a cracked Rib. The media is going to be blowing him about "what a warrior",!!!

My god I hope Ron Jaworski has a towel to wipe all the Favre juice off his face after the game tonight. Anyone else notice this?

I think the reason most "talking heads" type for the NFL like Favre because they appreciate the kind of competitor he is.  He never played for the money but because he loved the game.  He always gave honest interviews (which is part of being a professional) never got arrested and played hurt (alot).  Sure the back and fourth the last few years was kind of old, but it should not take away what he gave the Packers and the NFL.  Look at Brandon Marshall, Mike Vick, Stallworth, ect, ect..the list goes on, these are the bad guys, not a 40 year old who loves to play but is not sure his body will hold up an entire season.  I would not be surprised if down the road Manning or Brady have the same issues.  More guys would do the same thing but usually they are forced out of the league where Brett was recruited.  (Hey Ron, how did you like Denvers reaction to Culver?  I wonder how Green Bay fans will be?)

 
I'll agree that guys like Jon Gruden and John Madden will appreciate the kind of competitor he is, but when you say "talking heads" you are also including guys like Tony Kornheiser and Mike Greenberg and Bob Ryan, etc., sportswriters and radio hosts who have no past playing experience and no reason to appreciate one persons "competitive fire" over another. 
 
The back and forth over the past couple years will take away from what he gave the Packers, as far as history is concerned.  What he did doesn't compare to any athlete of our lifetime.  Nobody has let a situation spiral out of control the way he has.  20 years from now statheads will have his records and "will-to-win", and "ability to make plays" be the first thing they think of when talking about Favre, but not people that follow the game everyday.  I was tired of his to-retire-or-not-to-retire act 3 years ago, before he even retired!  Every offseason since '03 its been a battle for him.  Again, this happens to no one else.  Manning and Brady won't have the same problem, just as the rest of the greats haven't had the same problem.  Brady has a life outside football, as does Manning.  The public has to suffer because Brett Favre can't find anything to do outside of a football field other than weed-whack and hop on a tractor.  And because of that, the Vikings fans get to see an overpaid has-been take over their team for a mere $12 million and see their season end surely on an untimely Favre interception in a playoff game.  But hey, at least the hillbilly is gonna have a blast while he's doing it!
 

 
He was recruited because anyone with a brain knows if you offer him a couple newspaper headlines, excused absence from training camp, a ride home from the airport and the starting qb position he'll unretire.  Others don't get recruited because teams know when they retire they actually mean it. 

 
Haha, thanks.  You'd think the guy had a one night stand w/my sister or something.  But no, he's never done a thing to me and may actually be the salt of the earth.